Bonhoeffer and Ontology

Written by Jonathan

Topics: Theology

I thought since my last discussion about Bonheoffer was so productive, and possibly a bit confusing, I would ask permission from one of my University professors to quote him in my blog.

This works out, because not only am I hit for blogging time, but this professor’s comments are very well articulated. I have a high degree of respect for this man. He has given me permission to quote his comments, but he will not be responding to comments made here on the blog Please know that. This post is in regards to Bonhoeffer’s view on the resurrection of Christ—which, to the Faith shapes every other facet.

I will begin by quoting my email to him, then his response to me.

Prof. Lloyd,

I was wondering if you could offer some thoughts on ontology. I am reading Bonhoeffer, “The Cost of Discipleship,” and in chapter 28, “Baptism.” Here, Bonhoeffer says, “[Jesus] is the incarnate, crucified, risen and glorified Christ, and he meets us in his word. The difference between the terminology of the Synoptists and the witness of St. Paul does not involve any break in the unity of the scriptural testimony” (230). His footnotes on this state: “The direct testimony of the scriptures is frequently confounded with ontological propositions. . . . The truth that Jesus Christ is risen and present to us is then taken as an independent statement with an ontological significance which can be applied critically to other ontological statements, and it is thus exalted into a theological principle. This procedure is analogous to the fanatical doctrine of perfectionism, which arises from a similar ontological misunderstanding of the scriptural utterances on the subject of sanctification. . . . The assertion that Christ is risen and present is, when taken strictly as a testimony given in the scriptures, true only as a word of the scriptures. This word is the object of our faith.”

If ontology is the study of “being,” then I am a bit confused as to what Bonhoeffer is attempting to convey. Is he therefore saying that Christ’s state of being is only that of the Scripture “word,” or that since the scripture “word” proclaims it, it is therefore true? Perhaps Bonhoeffer is simply talking in terms that Jesus can only be met through the “word” and any ontological propositions would be found in the word itself, not in a Christ with a physical state of being, other than the “word” as the physical state of being of Christ? Perhaps I am not even on the right path of interpreting Bonhoeffer? Do you have any insight on this?

I think Bonhoeffer is a little off on some of his theology, but has many good things to discuss. I am a little stumped on what he means here.

Any help would be appreciated.

Jonathan.

And here is professor’s reply:

Jonathan,

We must always remember two things about Bonhoeffer’s theology: 1) He was influenced early in life by the famous German liberal theologian, Adolf Von Harnack, and 2) he was later influenced by German neo-orthodox theology, particularly the theology of Karl Barth. Though Barth’s influence caused Bonhoeffer to question some of Harnack’s liberalism, the spectre of old German liberalism was never fully vanquished from Bonhoeffer’s theological outlook.

When Bonhoeffer uses the phrase “ontological propositions,” he is talking about propositions that purport to describe reality, or an actual state of affairs (an actual state of “being” as it were). Thus, if I meant for the proposition “Jesus Christ was raised from the dead and is alive today” to have a real, ontological status, then I would mean that I believe the proposition describes an actual state of affairs—namely that Jesus Christ, in space-time history, rose from the dead and is actually alive today (albeit in a state of existence different from his physical, earthly incarnation).

Thus, Bonhoeffer is saying that we should not try to take the scriptural testimony of the risen Jesus as making any kind of ontological statement about the existence of Jesus. That’s a view of Jesus’ resurrection that is quite consistent with both of Bonhoeffer’s aforementioned theological mentors. Bonhoeffer would say, “Did Jesus really rise from the dead? Unlikely. But it doesn’t matter. What matters is the transformative power (read: existential significance) of those words in the life of a believer. What impact does the testimony have in the life of the one who allows himself to be transformed by the power of these words?” Notice he is very careful in the passage you’ve quoted to say that this testimony is true “only as a word of the scriptures.” Not at all literally true, in any ontological sense. Instead it conveys a kind of truth similar to myth or legend.

The idea that what matters is not the historical event but rather its existential import in the life of the believer is a classic neo-orthodox move. Bonhoeffer, like many good theological existentialists, would say that the resurrection of Jesus is not something that literally happened to Jesus, but rather it is something that happens to us, his disciples. “Jesus Christ has been raised in our hearts” and that “resurrection” gives significance to our existence.

In the latter half of the twentieth century, many evangelical Christians fell in love with Bonhoeffer’s writings, because they found a deep personal piety contained therein that they found attractive. They also appreciated his courage and willingness to die for his convictions. But once again, this shows how uncritical evangelicals have become. While we might find many statements from Bonhoeffer on such subjects as personal piety and personal ethics that we might agree with and even appreciate, those statements come packaged in a theology that should be troubling to those who take the biblical narrative seriously. I myself do in fact believe that the proposition “Jesus Christ is risen from the dead” is an ontologically true statement. In fact, if it were not so, I would concur with the apostle Paul that “our faith is futile.” What genuine transformative power is that proposition supposed to have if it is not ontologically true?



Feel free to respond, but please understand there will be no response from this professor—unless, of course, he happens to read this and decides to respond himself. But do not expect it.



-Jonathan J.

7 Comments For This Post I'd Love to Hear Yours!

  1. Van Jones says:

    Theology is hard. Hard because we have millions of Christians who have come of age one way or another. Each of us (individuals of the millions) have "a" theology, just 99% haven't thought about it and put it on paper or blog. Only one has had a theology that was true, Jesus the man, Our problem is that we ALL have fallen short. If we are short our theologies are short. So where does that leave us-brothers and sisters saved by the grace of God. At least I pray that is where we are. Different but saved. Your blog was great. I read you for the first time today. I will continue to read. Van

    • Jonathan says:

      You are right when you say we do not have 100% correct theology. I do believe, though, we have the ability to learn much about God through His word. I think we cut ourselves short at times in what we can know and learn about our savior.

      Thanks for stopping by!

  2. john edwards says:

    Jonathan, you are about two feet over my head, but I love you dude!

  3. Michael Krainak says:

    I inte[ret Bonhoeffer in a slightly different way:

    Thought experiment:

    Suppose someone showed you a video tape of Jesus rising from the dead – that was proven to be factual. Would it change the way you live?

    I believe Bonhoeffer is saying: “I don’t need the video tape – because I believe in the Resurrection.”

    This agrees with the entire theology of the Gospel story of Thomas. The whole point of that story is that believers don’t need the video tape. In Jesus words ” “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

    The great part is – this is “true” from any angle.

    Bonhoeffer I believe would go farther and agree with Paul. If you need a video tape – you really didn’t believe because true belief will always result in a change of the way you live. Not because it is a test, but because it is always a result.

    20(AH) Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age?(AI) Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. 22For(AJ) Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, 23but we preach Christ(AK) crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, 24but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ(AL) the power of God and(AM) the wisdom of God. 25For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

    • Thanks for stopping by, Michael.

      I don’t think I this blog post is actually speaking about needing a “video tape” account of Christ’s resurrection. Of course we are blessed to believe without seeing, and this I certainly do! but if you notice, Bonhoeffer states that the object of our faith is the Word of the Scriptures, and not the actual, ontological Christ Himself. My faith isn’t in Scripture alone, but in the Christ of the Scriptures, in the God who made the Scriptures come about. Since He has done such a thing and has revealed His word in the Scriptures, then my faith is also in the Scriptures, but it is necessarily contingent upon the very real, incarnate, risen God and Savior Jesus Christ.

      Don’t get me wrong, I think Bonhoeffer was far braver than many Christians today. I’m not sure if I would have gone the distance he did. There is a difference, however, that lies in the object of faith. Bonheffer did not believe in the actual resurrection of Christ, and that Christ is not seated at the right hand of God. This was the whole point of my professor’s response, that if we are to believe in a Gospel that has only personal, existential benefit, but has no ontological truth to it, then what ultimate good is it anyway?

      For that matter we could concoct any theory that fancies our minds and emotions. Bonhoeffer died for what he believed in, but what he believed in (as expressed in “The Cost of Discipleship”) was not the faith the Scriptures speak of.

  4. Michael Krainak says:

    P.S. I’ll take a “doubter” like Bonhoeffer who “believes” in the Resurrection so much that he stakes his life on it OVER a “true believer” who “knows” the Resurrection is “true” who would not even murmur in the face of a Nazi.

    May we all be such “doubters”.

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